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		<title>By: Peter Milton</title>
		<link>http://firstchurchofatheism.com/index.php/2009/christmas/comment-page-1/#comment-15170</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter Milton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Dec 2011 12:27:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh dear, much as I hate and despise christmas as you do, I take it with a pinch of salt and just relax with family and friends after the mayhem of the preparations.  However, I glorify in informing friends and neighbours that it is an ancient mid-winter festival stolen by the christians for their own purposes.  It&#039;s nothing but a capitalist con trick these days and an excuse for a good party, but to put a seed of doubt into (non-practising) christians&#039; minds is a good tonic to go with your whisky.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh dear, much as I hate and despise christmas as you do, I take it with a pinch of salt and just relax with family and friends after the mayhem of the preparations.  However, I glorify in informing friends and neighbours that it is an ancient mid-winter festival stolen by the christians for their own purposes.  It&#8217;s nothing but a capitalist con trick these days and an excuse for a good party, but to put a seed of doubt into (non-practising) christians&#8217; minds is a good tonic to go with your whisky.</p>
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		<title>By: Guy Wayne Salsburg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Guy Wayne Salsburg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Feb 2011 01:48:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Christmas Holiday has become just a day in which all in a family &amp; friends can get together in love and companionship. Christmas never has been a religious holiday during my 57 years and stays the same in my home. My three adult children do not view it as religious. We do not view Santa as being connected to Jesus, in fact, the present day Santa has never been connected to Jesus except on the religious channels of cable TV. 

Like I did and my three children did, my 8 yr old grandson believes in Santa. There is no religious connection in any of our homes, we just like how this time of year is the time of year in which most people throughout most of the world celebrate life and the comming New Year.

Christmas is a time mostly for the enjoyment of the children who receives gifts from parents, grandparents, other relatives and, magically, from Santa.

There is no logical reason for any one to be upset by Christmas because it is only the churchs and the ever decreasing religious believers who view it as religious. Beside that, why get mad because someone says Merry Christmas or Happy Honaka or Happy Kwanza or whatever - they are just wishing the best for you and your loved ones. Simply say, Thank you, and smile.

Rev. Guy Salsburg, First Church of Atheistism</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Christmas Holiday has become just a day in which all in a family &amp; friends can get together in love and companionship. Christmas never has been a religious holiday during my 57 years and stays the same in my home. My three adult children do not view it as religious. We do not view Santa as being connected to Jesus, in fact, the present day Santa has never been connected to Jesus except on the religious channels of cable TV. </p>
<p>Like I did and my three children did, my 8 yr old grandson believes in Santa. There is no religious connection in any of our homes, we just like how this time of year is the time of year in which most people throughout most of the world celebrate life and the comming New Year.</p>
<p>Christmas is a time mostly for the enjoyment of the children who receives gifts from parents, grandparents, other relatives and, magically, from Santa.</p>
<p>There is no logical reason for any one to be upset by Christmas because it is only the churchs and the ever decreasing religious believers who view it as religious. Beside that, why get mad because someone says Merry Christmas or Happy Honaka or Happy Kwanza or whatever &#8211; they are just wishing the best for you and your loved ones. Simply say, Thank you, and smile.</p>
<p>Rev. Guy Salsburg, First Church of Atheistism</p>
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		<title>By: Cat</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Nov 2010 10:31:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK. How about we take a more &#039;humanistic&#039; approach - Chrismas for the greater good of mankind. In the UK, hardly anybody is Christian anymore. Although most still have Christian values - like no killing, stealing, helping others etc!! Everyone celebrates Christmas. It&#039;s good for the individual, families and the community (In most cases). It brings you closer to your loved ones, your neighbours and the community. The poor benefit in the area because people feel the need to help around christmas. It is proven to be healthy if you have a close network of support around you, and christmas celebates this and encourages this. Yes, people spend too much and eat too much, another problem for another day. But that aside, Chrismas is good. We need to bring it into the 21st Century and realise its value and enjoy your holiday. Stop moaning people... lol

Looking forward to what you have to say :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK. How about we take a more &#8216;humanistic&#8217; approach &#8211; Chrismas for the greater good of mankind. In the UK, hardly anybody is Christian anymore. Although most still have Christian values &#8211; like no killing, stealing, helping others etc!! Everyone celebrates Christmas. It&#8217;s good for the individual, families and the community (In most cases). It brings you closer to your loved ones, your neighbours and the community. The poor benefit in the area because people feel the need to help around christmas. It is proven to be healthy if you have a close network of support around you, and christmas celebates this and encourages this. Yes, people spend too much and eat too much, another problem for another day. But that aside, Chrismas is good. We need to bring it into the 21st Century and realise its value and enjoy your holiday. Stop moaning people&#8230; lol</p>
<p>Looking forward to what you have to say <img src='http://firstchurchofatheism.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Detox diet :</title>
		<link>http://firstchurchofatheism.com/index.php/2009/christmas/comment-page-1/#comment-4749</link>
		<dc:creator>Detox diet :</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Oct 2010 18:25:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>my sister always bake fruit cakes coz we always love to much them at night.~`</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>my sister always bake fruit cakes coz we always love to much them at night.~`</p>
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		<title>By: Knife Sets `</title>
		<link>http://firstchurchofatheism.com/index.php/2009/christmas/comment-page-1/#comment-4707</link>
		<dc:creator>Knife Sets `</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Oct 2010 16:57:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>fruit cakes with lots of raisins is the thing that i often much, they are great and yummy&quot;&quot;-</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>fruit cakes with lots of raisins is the thing that i often much, they are great and yummy&#8221;"-</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Winship</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark Winship</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Sep 2010 11:07:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First of all, the easiest solution to the &quot;Merry Christmas&quot; phrase is, &quot;Happy Holiday&quot;, covers everybody!

Next, if people want to believe something that doesnt seem rational,
Let Them! If everyone would give everybody else the same choice that
&quot;God&quot; in the &quot;Good Book&quot; gives, maybe we could all get along.  Namely FREE CHOICE!  Jesus exemplified this when he walked away from a town that rejected his Sermons. He gave them the choice to not listen. I see the major problem in the world today as all the different Religions at war with each other, trying to get rid of each other for different view points. crazy stuff. 

Oh, Jesus, pronounced ( hey suess ) Orta, Proof is in the pudding, in other words proof is not something written in a book hundreds of years ago, by hundreds of different people most of whom were not even alive when the things they wrote about, were supposed to have happened. That is called story telling! I think most of those stories are &quot;based&quot; on something that happened at the time that could not be explained, due to lack of true knowledge,  Just remember, dont believe most of what you hear, and only 1/2 of what you read.

Almost all of the current secular holidays came after the pagan holidays.  The church purposely put them on the same dates so as to make it easier for thier believers to switch over from one celebration to the &quot;right&quot; purpose for the celebration, even if the dates didnt make sense.

As for the fruit cake, my grannies was the best, she used real rum!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First of all, the easiest solution to the &#8220;Merry Christmas&#8221; phrase is, &#8220;Happy Holiday&#8221;, covers everybody!</p>
<p>Next, if people want to believe something that doesnt seem rational,<br />
Let Them! If everyone would give everybody else the same choice that<br />
&#8220;God&#8221; in the &#8220;Good Book&#8221; gives, maybe we could all get along.  Namely FREE CHOICE!  Jesus exemplified this when he walked away from a town that rejected his Sermons. He gave them the choice to not listen. I see the major problem in the world today as all the different Religions at war with each other, trying to get rid of each other for different view points. crazy stuff. </p>
<p>Oh, Jesus, pronounced ( hey suess ) Orta, Proof is in the pudding, in other words proof is not something written in a book hundreds of years ago, by hundreds of different people most of whom were not even alive when the things they wrote about, were supposed to have happened. That is called story telling! I think most of those stories are &#8220;based&#8221; on something that happened at the time that could not be explained, due to lack of true knowledge,  Just remember, dont believe most of what you hear, and only 1/2 of what you read.</p>
<p>Almost all of the current secular holidays came after the pagan holidays.  The church purposely put them on the same dates so as to make it easier for thier believers to switch over from one celebration to the &#8220;right&#8221; purpose for the celebration, even if the dates didnt make sense.</p>
<p>As for the fruit cake, my grannies was the best, she used real rum!</p>
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